G Force breeding policy for outside dogs.

 
 

     I get calls and emails from folks wanting to breed to my stud dog, or wanting to breed their stud dog to one of my girls.  All breeders have different ways of doing things based on what they feel is right for their kennel.  I do not want to come off as mean but I do want people to know this is how I do things and these are my opinons.   Hopefully this gives people something to think about..

If you breed a litter you are a dog breeder.  Not only do I have Border Collies here, but I also have a Ridgeback here who I adore and he is the best Ridgeback ever in my eyes. ( Except when he jumps on my bed at night and lands on my feet with his 110 pound self.  LOL)  Although I adore my Ridgeback I had him neutered because I am not a Ridgeback breeder, and he is a better pet than breeding dog.   My Ridgeback is a very happy, very loved,  but neutered pet.  Some of the best dogs I come across as a dog trainer are spayed/ neutered pets and they are the apple of their owners eyes as it should be however that does not mean they are breeding material or that their owners want to take on the responsibility of being a breeder.  I am sure you feel like you have the greatest Border Collie in the world and guess what YOU DO!.  Yep, your dog is great with or without the ability to breed your dog is awesome.  If your dog makes you happy, is a joy for you and your family then yep it is the greatest dog in the world.  I am not one to think a dog isn't great simply because he or she is not a breeding prospect.  

Side note:  **Lets get honest,  if it hurts your feelings to read the things below you are not in the right business.  You need thick skin and convition about your dogs and your bloodines or nobody will take you seriously.  I am not trying to be mean but that is just the way it is.  If you think well omgravy I shouldn't have to explain myself to this chick I will find another persons dog to breed to.  You are 100% right but this is my policy and this is how I do things and why I think my kennel has lasted all these years.

1.  I do not breed to outside females if I do not know the breeder, lines, or dog.  I have raised these dogs for many years so I do know a lot of the bloodlines out there and know which ones I personally like.  That does not mean there is anything wrong with a line,  I just know what I personally prefer and what people who come to me looking for a dog want in a pup. 
 
2.  I have never used a stud that came from lines I do not know, or that came from a breeder I do not know of.  That doesn't mean it will never happen it just means as of today Jan. 23rd 2016 it has not happened.  Chances are if a breeder is looking for a stud dog they will contact other breeders who have the same types of dogs they do or that they are interested in.  Although it is a big world with the help of the web we can google other breeders very easliy. This is why I suggest if you are wanting to stud out your dog you contact your dogs breeder and let them know so they can help you and point you in the right direction.  If they are a quality breeder they will be happy to help you out as it is their lines you are dealing with. 


    So you have a female that you want to breed and not sure where to start. 
 
 
    First off I am going to assume you have done your research and know about health testing and such if not you will need to get your dog health tested before you know if she is a breeding prospect.  Ok so lets jump into questions you may be asked when calling around and wanting to breed your dog. 


1. Why?  What is the reason you want to breed her? 
       This is a real questions.  Why?  Please for the love of all that is holy do NOT say so your kids and experience the miracle of life.  If you want to experience that then call a rescue group and foster a pregnant momma dog.   This miracle of life is messy and can be a tragic.  Do you know how many breeders have at least one pup due during the birth or withing 24 hours?  Do you know how many females will have complications ?  What about bottle feeding pups which I know sounds like such great fun.  WRONG.  Waking up every 2 hours to start feeding a litter unless it is a big litter then you must get up about every hour to feed so that the pups all get to eat.  Oh yeah pups can't go to the bathroom on their own when born so you must stimulate them to pee and poop.  Then there is the keeping them at a perfect temperature becuase if not they die.  Pups can't regulate their body temperatures when born so they must be kept very warm and should they get to cold and you try to feed them they won't absorb the nutriton and will not survive.  Raising pups is much more to it than playing with pups.  They even have dvd's that show the birth process if you just want you see what it is all about. 

  So please be prepared to explain why you want to breed your female and if you are prepared for it fully from start to finish.  Which there again good breeders offer help after the pup leaves so be prepared for helping your puppy buyers with questions for as long as they need help. 

2.  What is her lineage? 
    If you say well there are herding champions in her pedigree.  Uhh ok?  Seriously there are herding champions in every working line but for example lets say for example Champion Herding dog named "APPLE"sires 100 pups.  Were all 100 pups also champions?  No because that doesn't happen.  So the fact that that dog was a great herding dog with a great handler does not make your dog a champion by blood.   You need to know more about the lines other than  that you see one was a champion.  Honestly some of the best lines I have ever owned did not necessarily have some big famous herding champion or famous show chamion for a parent/ grandparent etc. 

3.  Who is the breeder and do they know you plan to breed?
      Maybe they can help you find a suitable stud.  Most breeders will help you on this journey if they have sold you a pup with breeding rights.  For obvious reasons they wouldn't want you to breed their line to a line they wouldn't consider a quality breeding. 

4.   What is it about this dog that makes you want to breed it?  Also what type of pups are you wanting to produce?  Working dogs, performance dogs, pets, therapy dogs what is your breeding goal.
Everybody thinks their dogs have great temperaments but there must be more to it than that.  I see dogs daily at the shelters with great temperaments  but that doesn't mean they should be bred.  Try to go into details afterall you are the one looking to breed your dog the breeder didn't come to you wanting to breed her. 

5.  What is her hip score?
If you say you have not had her hip tested yet why?  Is there a reason for it?  Yes, I do know hips are polygenic but if you don't see them on an xray you don't know much about your girl.  If she is dysplastic then breeding her could cause her a great deal of pain during the pregnany and whelping too.  Hips are a hot topic now among breeders because of the new research saying hips problems are grealy caused by environment.

6.  What is her DNA status for CEA/Ch? 
CEA is an easy disease to prevent.  ONE parent must be free and no pups will have the disease.  Can't fix blind pups. 

7. What genetic health problems are in that line? (If you say how would I know.. you haven't done your research so why would a breeder want to do it for you?)
There are lines we KNOW carry certain problems and you just need to do your research and see what is in your lines.

8.  Do you have people wanting pups out of this girl and why. 
 This is kind of a basic questions. 
        
9. Is your dog a certain color that must be bred a certain way in order to not have genetic problems? 
If you don't know then you need to do your research in that area as well.  Can't breed merle to merle but do you know the gold gene is a masking gene
and should you breed it to a merle some of the gold pups may be merles too.  Gold merles do NOT have spots.   Do you have a dog with a lot of white or the pie bald gene which can cause hearing problems.

10. Who will be raising the pups and how?
 Nobody wants pups raised off in some barn to get no socialization or handling.  We know the importance of how pups are raised now so how will you do it?

11.  Will you be offering a guarantee on your pups?  If so what and why?
 Most people want a guarantee of some sort.

12. Will your pups be going on spay/neuter contracts?  If so why?
 How will you enforce a spay/neuter contract and are you aware of new research pointing to problems of early spay and neuter?

13.  What is your back up plan should your female die giving birth, be unable to nurse, or simply unwilling to take care of her pups?
I hit on this above but it is a real issue.


Still with me?  Just checking...

 
    So you have a stud and you are looking for a female to breed him to. 

  First off look above and think of the same basic questions.  There are a few more though for a stud that wouldn't apply to a girl.

 1.  Are you prepared to open the "pandora's" box so to speak of breeding a male and opening that flood gate of hormones that will come once he is a "stud" dog.
   
2. Why would it benefit the owner of the female to use your stud over a dog who is a proven dog?

3.  Same health and lineage questions as above.

4.  What role would you play in finding homes for pups, covering costs of care and such?

5.  Will you offer to split the responsibility of the guarantee on the pups? 
    FYI in the dog world expect the stud dog to get 90% of the blame in health issues.  This is kind of a joke but not totally a joke.  When all else fails blame the  stud dog seems to be a common thing in the dog world. 

6.  Why did you want to breed this boy? 
     Please, please do not say "I just wanted him to get to breed a girl once".  Yes,  I have had a man tell me that and my reply was,  "please tell me you are not serious" followed by a few other things once he informed me he was.    These are dogs they do not know what they are missing and your dog is NOT wanting to be a dad to fulfill his life long dream.  Nope not the way that works.  LOL 



Should you not know the answers to any of the above you need to do your research.  I take raising Border Collies serious and feel that there is more to it than just having a male and a female dog.  In my opinion if all a person wants is a pup,  then they can go to a pound and get the same quality of pup that they would by going to a back yard breeder who did nothing but breed two dogs.